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Axle Options?

Post by JeepGuy21 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:27 pm

This past weekend I trailered my Jeep to a friend's shop for some much needed repairs. We tore apart the front axle (HP30) and found a broken ring gear and a slight twist in the passenger side splines of the Superior chomolly axle shaft. We replaced the balljoints as well, the passenger side was able to be pulled out by hand. After replacing the balljoints we discovered that the passenger side still had alot of movement. We ended up knurling the new joint and used a sleeve sealant paste to help as well.

I'm not concerned about the axle shaft, the ring gear can be replaced. My concern is about the ball joint mounts wallowing out. I have had this axle set since mid 2012 with one wheeling trip that fall and about 10 weekends or so last year (2013.) The Jeep sat for the 8 months until it had some basic maintenance before Spring Fling in June. The Jeep rarely sees any street time and now is trailered for wheeling trips.

Do I need to focus my attention on finding a better axle replacement? Should I replace the HP30 housing every couple of years?

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Post by JeepGuy21 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:32 pm

Here are a few photos from this past weekend; I will also update my build thread with some of the other repairs we completed.

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Post by illyb » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:43 pm

Have you checked your camber? Are your c's bent? Any damage to your hubs (wheel bearings specifically) that would cause your front tires to put more wear and tear on your ball joints?
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Post by jeepboy » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:21 am

Lead foot!! Sounds like you need some 60's
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Post by frosty » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:53 am

No you shouldnt have to replace housings every few years. Maybe wheeling lessons are in order. :flipoff:

Get a new housing with good inner Cs and swap your stuff over now. Dont bother running with the knurling and paste. Liable to make for a rough recovery when it lets go.

60s are overkill for 35s. Plus stock 60s suck.
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Post by GRAHAMontherocks » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:53 am

Dylan are you building a dedicated trail jeep now that you have a truck and trailer? If your not dding it anymore why not build a stronger purpose built axle instead of repeatedly tossing money into a d30 and having to worry about your housings?


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Post by JeepGuy21 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:32 am

I want to keep the Jeep tagged and insured so I can still drive it on the road when I want to. But I'm not opposed to building a better axle set for wheeling either.

If I replace the housing how long until I have the same issue again with the ball joint mounts wearing out?

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Post by john3676 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:15 pm

Dana 30 housings are a dime a dozen. Just swap it out and keep rolling. The 35s are going to beat the ball joints up quick. Same with control arm bushings. It sounds to me like the ball joint failed and beat the cap out of the Cs. Building any decent 60 is going to be big $.

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Post by illyb » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:16 pm

JeepGuy21 wrote:I want to keep the Jeep tagged and insured so I can still drive it on the road when I want to. But I'm not opposed to building a better axle set for wheeling either.

If I replace the housing how long until I have the same issue again with the ball joint mounts wearing out?
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Are you sure the housing is a problem? I'd inspect the hubs for any abnormal wear and tear, and check the camber before making any decisions as to what to do next.

Aren't you running 33s? 33s shouldn't stress ball joints too much.
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Post by JeepGuy21 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:33 pm

35x12.50 KM2s. I just added AtoZ beadlocks this weekend.

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Post by john3676 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:52 pm

Steel beedlocks are heavy. My 35s beat my ball joints hard enough to where they failed on the trail. Took 6 hours to get back to staging. On aluminum wheels.

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Post by slvrjp00 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:55 pm

I would first ditch the heavy ass steel bead locks. Either look for aluminum ones or even the internal style like stauns. Like John said 30's are easily found 60's are silly for 35's.
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Post by john3676 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:09 pm

I got like 3 housing about to go to the scraper if u want to come get one. 50$ you pick what one.

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Post by JeepGuy21 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:12 pm

John I'll let you know, are any of them HP30s?

What about swapping in a Wagoneer 44 up front?

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Re: Axle Options?

Post by MPETE » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:29 pm

Waggys are 6 lug so if you go that route, you need a different rear axle AND those bead locks you just got won't work anymore.
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