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Post by Keith_c » Thu May 26, 2011 6:17 pm

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They better save that $4128 for legal fees and settlements. :popcorn:

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Post by wesleypipesyo » Thu May 26, 2011 6:18 pm

That is just great. Isnt that Ferrari's club?
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Post by Keith_c » Thu May 26, 2011 6:24 pm

wesleypipesyo wrote:That is just great. Isnt that Ferrari's club?

He's not directly involved with running the club anymore other than being a vendor.

But, yes. That's where you know him from.

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Post by Keith_c » Thu May 26, 2011 6:25 pm

And I'm not a ESJA member.

That's in a public forum.

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Post by wesleypipesyo » Thu May 26, 2011 6:28 pm

Survival of the fittest? Maybe they are trying trim some fat from the shore
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Post by Cowboy » Thu May 26, 2011 6:33 pm

This type of thing shouldn't be in a public section of ANY forum. It's the morans of the 4x4 community that shoot themselves in the foot and get things taken away from the rest of us. I don't drink and wheel, I do enough crazy stuff sober to break my shat...it'd really be effed with a beer and 4lo.
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Post by karlvin08 » Thu May 26, 2011 6:43 pm

I don't know, it is possible to do things while enjoying a beer or two without getting so drunk you can't function properly. I think sometimes people hear drink and wheel and automatically assume the worst.
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Post by Keith_c » Thu May 26, 2011 6:54 pm

karlvin08 wrote:I don't know, it is possible to do things while enjoying a beer or two without getting so drunk you can't function properly. I think sometimes people hear drink and wheel and automatically assume the worst.
Do drunks really "know their limits" ?

Best thing is to not drink while wheeling, or if you are going to don't post about it in a public forum.

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Post by MPETE » Fri May 27, 2011 11:30 am

Keith_c wrote:
karlvin08 wrote:I don't know, it is possible to do things while enjoying a beer or two without getting so drunk you can't function properly. I think sometimes people hear drink and wheel and automatically assume the worst.
Do drunks really "know their limits" ?

Best thing is to not drink while wheeling, or if you are going to don't post about it in a public forum.
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Post by frosty » Fri May 27, 2011 12:23 pm

Is it really any worse than holding a meet and greet at a bar/restaurant, drinking beers (how many is up to you to decide) and driving home?

I agree with Karl, you can enjoy a couple beers without going over board. But most automatically assume the worst.
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Post by jimmy21669 » Fri May 27, 2011 12:53 pm

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It is not a matter of THINKING you are responsible...although it is about safety. It is also about representing the sport properly to preserve it.

People will respect a well spoken and represented group. But if we perpetuate the myth that it is all drunkin hillbillies, we will get nowhere.

THAT is what it's about.
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Post by karlvin08 » Fri May 27, 2011 12:57 pm

frosty wrote:Is it really any worse than holding a meet and greet at a bar/restaurant, drinking beers (how many is up to you to decide) and driving home?

I agree with Karl, you can enjoy a couple beers without going over board. But most automatically assume the worst.

Hmm, reason and logic. If I didn't know any better I would think you are new to this whole internet thing. :D You are right, I hadn't even thought of the M&G aspect. I enjoy beer, but I don't think I have had more than 3 in one sitting for several years. I have begun doing the quality over quantity thing. I probably spend as much on those few beers now as I did when I guzzled the cheap stuff, but enjoy it much more now. People think the same thing about riding a bike and having beers. I ride out to the tiki bar all the time and have a burger and a couple beers but some people seem to think if even a drop crosses your lips when you are on two wheels that your gas tank will explode, the wheels will come off and you will kill two bus loads of children on their way home from school. I don't get the alarmist way of thinking sometimes.
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Post by jimmy21669 » Fri May 27, 2011 1:08 pm

karlvin08 wrote:
frosty wrote:Is it really any worse than holding a meet and greet at a bar/restaurant, drinking beers (how many is up to you to decide) and driving home?

I agree with Karl, you can enjoy a couple beers without going over board. But most automatically assume the worst.

Hmm, reason and logic. If I didn't know any better I would think you are new to this whole internet thing. :D You are right, I hadn't even thought of the M&G aspect. I enjoy beer, but I don't think I have had more than 3 in one sitting for several years. I have begun doing the quality over quantity thing. I probably spend as much on those few beers now as I did when I guzzled the cheap stuff, but enjoy it much more now. People think the same thing about riding a bike and having beers. I ride out to the tiki bar all the time and have a burger and a couple beers but some people seem to think if even a drop crosses your lips when you are on two wheels that your gas tank will explode, the wheels will come off and you will kill two bus loads of children on their way home from school. I don't get the alarmist way of thinking sometimes.


BUT...if you allow it for one, you allow it for all. Do YOU want to be out their wheeling with the drunk 22 year olds whose foot is stuck to the skinny pedal?

My argument is not about YOUR responsibility, but responsibility over all. Mybe you can temper yourself, but I GUARANTEE not everyone can.

THAT is reason and logic. If EVERYONE can not wheel and drink responsibly then NOONE does.
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Post by frosty » Fri May 27, 2011 1:14 pm

karlvin08 wrote:Hmm, reason and logic.
[soupnazi]No reason and logic for you![/soupnazi] :lol:
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Post by karlvin08 » Fri May 27, 2011 1:16 pm

jimmy21669 wrote:Alcohol + 4lo =
No-Off-Roading-Sign-K-6004.gif
It is not a matter of THINKING you are responsible...although it is about safety. It is also about representing the sport properly to preserve it.

People will respect a well spoken and represented group. But if we perpetuate the myth that it is all drunkin hillbillies, we will get nowhere.

THAT is what it's about.

More alarmist thinking. Do people drink mountain dew or coke or whatever to get fat and rot your teeth? Or do they drink it because they like the taste and realize that in moderation it doesn't automatically turn you into a round toothless idiot. Beers are the same way. Sure if you have too many too fast you get drunk, but one or two in an afternoon don't get you drunk. If you enjoy the taste, and to me anyway nothing is quite as refreshing on a hot ass day than a good crisp IPA. If I have one with lunch on a hot day, then maybe another a couple hours later during a break I am not going to be measurably impaired. You could argue that someone who has taken allergy medicine before hitting the trail is more impaired than someone who has a beer. Why should I be told I can't enjoy a beverage of my choice because some people don't know how to handle themselves in public and get retarded drunk or throw glass bottles around making a mess of the trail. It is nanny state BS. If someone is out there drinking too much, kick them out and call the cops as they leave the gate letting them know there is a drunk driver on the road. Why punish me for others being idiots. The stupid 22yo are the same ones filling camel backs with vodka and redbull when they are told they can't have alcohol anyway.
Overgunned? Hell, that's better than the alternative.
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NavinRJohnson wrote:Sorry, but you guys are clueless. Any hair left on the badger interferes with the process, because the bits of the watermelon get caught in the hair. It's a sticky phucking mess. You don't really want to have to deal with that while looking for the quarter.

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